Very clean, my wife used these for a retail job, standing on her feet indoors all day. She had custom orthotics, so insoles that came with shoes are close to perfect. She quit that job, and doesn’t need them anymore. She has also moved to a size 8 for added room in toe box. Topos Phantom 3, 5mm drop. I ( we) can answer any and all questions about these. In fact , I would say we know more about this and other low drop shoes than a typical retail shop.